Posts by Las Malvinas son Argentinas

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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I’m only saying this because I think it would be such a shame if someone came across this website in the emotional distress situation they would find themselves whilst newly waking up and start reading through 800 pages of negativity on Lloyd Evans, however, deserved an accurate it is,

Newbies are highly vulnerable and Lloyd's channel exploits these vulnerabilities by making them think there's this new club outside the JWs, and it would be best if you paid him so he can bring others out. There are some videos over the years he has made that are of questionable judgment or downright malice.

Did you hear Marc Latham's account of how a vulnerable exJW was teased and bullied by Evans and his crew for believing in God? He tried to commit suicide. Read about it here:

Lloyd Evans: Bad Associations Spoil Useful Profits

Louise Goode worked with him on JWPodcast and an exJW comedian was snorting coke during the interview. Lloyd thought it was funny and laughed. He couldn't get enough of it. Do you really think Lloyd advising people it's OK to use cocaine is a good thing for exiting JWs to hear?

Here's her video with Kameron Fader: https://youtu.be/4Vrz1AJ1O1g?t=906

In his Nihilism video, Lloyd talks about his own depression and expressed support for euthanasia due to mental health issues. Would you want a depressed exJW who just can't get over losing their life and family go to that video and hearing Lloyd's opinion that it was OK just to end it all?

Per his Andrew Gold interview, it's OK to go to Thailand and have sex with sex workers as long as you are dating one. You see, he paid for dinner and the sex just seemed to come afterwards! He loves that place! Highly recommended!

Lloyd Evans needs a warning label. We are the warning label.

He's long ago reached the point of where his usefulness is outweighed by the negativity of it all. Watch that leaked Patron video and see how he manipulates people for money. See the screengrab below from Reddit where he accused Ray and Cynthia Franz's personal friend, caregiver and trusted successor of being an "unworthy custodian" of Ray's legacy:

To borrow his phrasing, Lioyd is an unworthy custodian of exJW content. He's a known liar and abuser. He deleted a comment made to JW Thoughts and then lied through his teeth about it.

LLoyd Evans Called Me Out... Oh Boy! - YouTube

We can and have done better. If he lied to Wally about deleting a comment, what else is he lying about?

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Does Lloyd realise that he can do a video without a gimble?

Excellent point. Some of the best, and I mean BEST exJW videos were done on a phone or to slides. JW Fairy Tales had the absolute STONES to call Bethel several times and argue with them about the Happy At Bethel video. No Tibor, no Dijana, and no Gimbal or patreon money required. All unscripted, he just started engaging with them.

https://youtu.be/F6zRlA-GAvQ

This exchange is classic at 28:35

Bethelite - You dance to worldly music, brother?

JWFT - No I don’t, do you?

Bethelite - You didn’t dance with your wife at your wedding?

JWFT - Oh yeah, we danced at our wedding… to Kingdom music!

JWFT - You asked me what me and my wife danced to at our wedding, well I’ll tell you what we didn’t do. We didn’t moonwalk. We didn’t “drop it like it’s hot”. We didn’t jiggle and shake in front of a camera to worldly music.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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In a rare act of candour, Lloyd actually admitted what we knew all along - He is a business, not a charity. He even identified Ipsilon Media as synonymous with "The Lloyd Evans Channel", or more specifically Lloyd and Dijana Evans, and Tibor Cecelja. He even goes so far as to tell donors they are indeed donating to a business, not a non-profit. And like a business, he reiterates that everyone must be paid.

'Thanks, everyone! For a while there, I thought I might have to dip into my savings!'

Lloyd is essentially a small business owner with two employees. I've known a few entrepreneurial types and it's the same case with most. If there is a part that they needed or someone needs to be paid and company funds can't cover it - it's simple. The owner dips into his own funds and loans the company money. It is paid back when the expected profit is made. Or if it is as simple as an equipment purchase and he doesn't want to go through the hassle documenting the loan properly, he can just buy the equipment personally and either just let "Ipsilon Media" use it for free or even have "them" lease it from him.

Lloyd refuses to do that. The Ronin DGI Gimble costs round $300. Not exactly cheap but it's not going to bankrupt anyone if they purchase it. Buying it himself doesn't add to the company profits. So, he wants his donors to buy it for him so as to not dip into his own wallet and enrich himself.

This story has been told time and time again about young entrepreneurs like Steve Jobs and Elon Musk who would sleep at the office or on friend's couches and eat bag lunches in order to save money. Not Lloyd. He's always been a 5-star activist. I would have refused to let Patrick Haeck's son and his girlfriend vacate their room for me. He had no problem with it and seemed to almost expect it. It's like, "I'm the star, Lloyd Evans, so if you want me here you had better make it comfortable enough for me".

Finally, the sheer grandiosity of Lloyd's statement about his legacy and making sure "generations" of people benefit! Who does he think he is, L. Ron Hubbard? It's like he envisions himself retiring to his island and handing over his channel to a chosen successor who will keep it going. It's very Hubbardesque.

"In the year 2145, the Mars colony Elononia has opened its first 'Lloyd Evans Centre'. The James Lloyd Evans Heritage Foundation president Tibor Lloyd Evans de la Cruz officially christened the centre with a bottle of 2030 MacAllen which once belonged to the great man himself. Beneath portraits of the great Leaders Lloyd Evans, Dijana Evans, and Tibor Cecelja, Mr Tibor-Lloyd, as he prefers to be called, unveiled the original Ronin DGI Gimbal donated from the Lloyd Evans Museum in Zagreb"

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Funny that he brings dijana up so much in the video….

This is a long pattern of behaviour. I could give you about 10 or more links of threads here where he is upset about people not agreeing with him and he always circles back to how upsetting this is for his wife (who had not participated at all in the thread and could have only known about it from what he told her). He is used to using her as a human shield of sorts. He probably used his mother's death for the same purposes.

"Hey Lloyd that was an easy empty net goal and you kicked it wide! You suck!"

[Keels over and puts his hand in his face]

"What a hell of a thing to say to a man who just lost his mum two short years ago!"

The crazy thing is he's still playing the Dijana card when they are living separate lives over an hour away from each other.

If I had only watched the livestream and that begging video, I could come up with what I knew of her in 5 words:

Dijana Evans - Excellent Office Manager, lousy fuck.

Sorry D - I'm only going by what information your dear hubby put out about you. It's a personal standard I keep to not work with people who have publicly stated that I did not sexually satisfy them.

It's hilarious that Lloyd has either a PIMO or an ex-Patron who leaked that video. It was the consensus on this thread that his begging stunt wasn't sustainable and it was only worth it if he scored huge. Looks like we were right on target with that one.

Some fun months ahead. Watch this space.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

So I’ll ask about Tibor….has he responded to your last message yet?

Nope. I don’t expect him to either. He probably has no desire to talk about Lloyd’s misdeeds and just wants to debunk green screen talk and call us crazy.

If Lloyd loses 20 more at the end of the month, that might just do it for him, especially if it goes below the last benchmark of 380.

I don’t wish him or Dijana any bad fortune. I just wish them a charmed and prosperous life completely independent of Lloyd. Don’t let him drag you down with his quixotic quest to get to 620.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

His claims of not being able to afford a Ronin DGI Gimbal are risible. Not as ridiculous as saying he couldn’t afford his daughter’s haircut, but he has a habit of claiming abject poverty when it is clear he has enough money for these things. Google “Ronin DGI Gimbal” and you’ll see it’s a little under $300. He spent about a week in Budapest on a ~~hooker~~ holiday little over a month after making that video. Shave a day or two off that trip and voilà - he’ll have enough for the damn Gimbal.

Here’s what the real issue is - he doesn’t want to pay for that out of his own “salary”. He wants the company surplus to be pumped back up by donors so it can be taken from that pool. It’s his channel and his business. He wants it that badly and if it is so essential to creating content then he can pay for it himself! Or maybe take better care of your shit so that it doesn’t get lost?

Shit happens. A tyre goes flat, you pay for the replacement. Very simple, right? Not in Lloyd-land. He’d have it on his next Patreon video. “A huge blow to my activism came on Monday when I ran over some nails with my BMW. I needed to get all of them replaced, which left me €600 out of pocket. What am I going to do? I might need to step back from my activism if I don’t get to 620 patrons… I can’t afford to pay Tibor!”

I’ll take an educated guess and reckon that someone heard about his equipment loss on that video, and not wanting his “activism” to suffer, bought it on Amazon and shipped it to him direct.

Is that a conspiracy theory? Where’s Tibor when we need him?

Oh and whilst I have your attention, Mr Cecelja, I’d steer clear of your boss on 1 April. He’s not going to be in a good mood and your salary is going to lay heavy on his mind. Tell him you are going to see your granny or something.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

The video is very manipulative. He seeks to make his struggles yours, Dijana's and Tibor's plights your problems, and thus you are in a unique position to help everyone out. He often calls out Tibor and Dijana and speaks on their behalf. Always involving his wife about everything. You're upsetting her by attacking me! You wouldn't want Tibor and Dijana to be out of work, would you?

Really, who gives a shit?

We all can lose our jobs at any given moment. And if the founder and CEO of my company went to Thailand for a sex holiday, involved two assistants in his quest to get his wife into an open relationship, got exposed, lost customers left and right to the point that the company has lost over half its value, and be nothing more than a nasty cunt on social media, even going to far as suing 7 foreign nationals in a court, I WOULD QUIT.

I have no sympathy whatsoever for two people who would continue to work for such a man at a close level. They know the guy is not right in the head, has absolutely sunk their company by his own actions and continued failures to take any accountability for them, and if they think otherwise, they deserve the same fate that awaits Lloyd.

Really, Tibor. It's for the best. Go out and get some real job experience before it's too late, not this freak you found on the internet. You're young, have excellent production skills and can speak two languages. You don't need this clown. Lloyd's not getting his Patrons back and you know it. He told his Patrons he can't afford you, and don't think he'd hesitate in sacking you if it gets worse (which it will). If he had the choice of keeping you and taking a paycut himself, he's firing your ass. Done and done. Maybe you'll get a farewell livestream where he *might* share some of the superchats with you.

And Dijana, I know you are really not doing a whole lot of shit for him. Look at the toll his "activism" has taken on your family.

Was the trip to Australia and the Gucci sunglasses worth it?

Your marriage failed and you are just putting off the inevitable. You are going to need to find a job. If not in Sisak, find somewhere you can go to and find employment. You're bi-lingual and can easily find a job in the tourist industry along the coast. There will be foreign men who will be interested in you, believe me. End this fucking charade that you work for him. For what awaits Lloyd, you'd be best advised to steer you and your family clear of. Get the divorce you asked for and let your government's justice system decide on how Lloyd is going to support his children.

It's time to let this man fail. That is what you married. No one is owed a happy ending. The Evans men are failures. Sorry.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

LMSA , if you want, I will let you make the transcript of that song, I had a hard time understanding what he was saying

First one was solo, with him on harmonica and acoustic guitar. Song is called "Guinea Pig"

Way to go to conversations.

Well you should have gone down there

When these guys come my hearts starts pumping

Everytime I make you laugh

I’m in way too deep

I’m a pawn and you’re the queen

I should turn out faded

But I’m caught in your gravity

Cuz I’m a mess

If you take a chance on me, I’ll be your guinea pig

I’ll be your guinea pig

It could go wrong, but I’m disposable you see

I’m your guinea pig

I’ll be your guinea pig

Cuz I’m a mess

If you take a chance on me, I’ll be your guinea pig

I’ll be your guinea pig

It may go wrong, but I’m disposable you see

I’ll be your guinea pig

I’ll be your guinea pig, your guinea pig….

Second song was only a short piece, with him on vocals and another man on guitar. Looks like he messed the lyrics up at the end.

And you can see

I’m falling apart

I didn’t think l like I’d feel like such a fool

Because even though I care for you, my guitar

I didn’t see this happening so soon

[Laughs] “Fits perfectly. We’re leaving it there. Let’s leave it there. A little bit a comedy at the end there”

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Claiming "he received" the message (from whom, Dijana? Or was this the left side of his brain telling the right?)

That wasn't lost on me either. Those begging tweets were sent out on 24 January. And he means to tell us that he had only figured that out with just a week to go in the month that he couldn't pay paycheques and the rent on Ramacro? No wait, Dijana did. Seriously doubt he's letting her be solely responsible for that. He has access to the accounts.

He thinks that everyone can and will bail him out and he's always been rescued in one way or another. Don't have a car? Fine, someone will ship you one. You're having a baby and your flat isn't ready? OK, Haeck will drive down and build it for you. A 700 Euro shortfall would normally mean a "Come to Jesus" moment with Tibor and telling him he can't afford his services anymore with donations being what they were for months. Or - he reduces his salary, Tibor's and Dijana's to make up for the shortfall. Oh no - he can't do that. He has plans to go to Budapest.

And fifth- if his work is SOOOO important, why isn't he doing it regardless of his financial situation? He is threatening to either reduce his content output to a trickle or end it completely.

He didn't know it at the time, but he came across a reasonable solution with going part time, doing two to a handful of videos a month and getting a job. What exactly is wrong with that? You'll have better content, you'll still be putting your name out there and contributing to your body of work.

But he won't do that because it's never an option for him. He can't find a job there. He kept repeating that he was ready to step away. I'm calling that bluff. Please, Lloyd, step away and go part time. Your Patrons are down again and it's going to get worse at the EOM and you'll be in the same position as you were in January. This is not a sustainable business model as you alluded to and the problem is you. Less screen time, not more screen time. We'll manage fine without you and your daily videos.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

The idea that you need to condemn everyone in order to condemn one person does not invalidate the accusation.

This has been his standard deflection since he arrived here. In the beginning, it was always "Paul Grundy/jwfacts shares the same viewpoint as I do! Why are you not going after him?". Because Paul isn't here right now arguing with me like you are, dumbass. If he were to come in and argue the same point, then I'll reply to him.

It's the argument of a child, complaining that a sibling always gets away with everything and he's punished more.

The problem with his assertion is that he's the only one "running a business". No one is comparable to him with the possible exception of Mark O'Donnell, and I don't see Mark making these threats on Twitter to stop his reporting if he doesn't get enough donated to him.

He's very emotionally stunted imo. It's like he got into his early teen years and stopped growing emotionally. He was probably a little bitch to deal with in the Kingdom Hall. "I never see little Johnny out in field service and he's supposed to be a regular pioneer! I'm auxiliary and I do way more hours than him! Yet Johnny is doing the sound and I only occasionally do microphones! Johnny talks to worldly girls yet everyone thinks he's the best!"